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Old 08/31/2018, 09:56 PM   #526
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Tank Update: (Few More Frags and a Special NEW Fish)

The Full Frag Inventory:



A Magma Wrasse (5 more days left in QT, then he goes into DT)




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Old 09/01/2018, 10:58 PM   #527
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Looking great.
That wrasse is a show piece!


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Old 09/02/2018, 10:36 AM   #528
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Looking great.
That wrasse is a show piece!
Thanks. He is special since very bright red (even with his tiny size).
Wish he would come out more. He hides in QT too much since I gave him too many hiding places to feel safe.
Hoping when he goes into DT he shows up more.
He will be the only Wrasse so should get along with established fish.


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Old 09/02/2018, 11:24 AM   #529
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Hey Wally, love the scape!
Looking great.


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Old 09/03/2018, 11:20 PM   #530
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Few more frags completes my Wish List (for now) New Tank Photo with a SIDE SHOT

Side Shot First



The New Frags



Front of TANK (without the Labels)



The Coraline is spreading nicely to Cover the Glass Bottom (even on the Newer Arch that Finally let go of the Brown Algae Bloom)


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Old 09/05/2018, 07:23 AM   #531
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Hey Wally, the corraline is definitely happy in there.
Looking good
Nice new frags.
I don’t see a lot of fish in the pics. How many fish in there?


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Old 09/05/2018, 12:30 PM   #532
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Hey Wally, the corraline is definitely happy in there.
Looking good
Nice new frags.
I don’t see a lot of fish in the pics. How many fish in there?
Yeah, it's funny how the Fish All Hide during photo time. and I pick the No-fish Photo to show Frags.

I have been adding fish over the last while with the new tank, but lost one Large Tomini Tang.

The fish inventory is (10 Fish) (CUC: 1 Large Cleaner Shrimp, 2 Emerald Crabs, Mix of Hermits, and Snails)

- 1x Large Yellow Tank
- 1x Medium Blue Green Chromis
- 1x Medium Male Wanatabei Angel (had a beautiful Pair, but one jumped)
- 1x Medium Sunburst FatHead Anthias
- 2x Medium Carriberryi Anthias
- 1x Medium Black Cap Basslet
- 1x Medium Copperband Butterfly
- 1x Small Magma Wrasse
- 1x Mandarin Goby

Got 7 fish in this photo to give you an idea.



They eat like crazy. I'm doing 3-4 cubes of Frozen a day, with Flake and pellets in between.

The small and medium Fish will grow over time. (So don't want to overcrowd things)

I don't plan on adding much more fish, except some small Gobies, to fill in he nooks and crannies (later, if ever).


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Old 09/07/2018, 09:36 PM   #533
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Crazy but Determined EMERALD CRAB (YouTube Video) Cleaning Moving Hydor Powerhead (Fighting Current Flow)

Two emerald Crabs is too much for this Depleted Algae Tank.

After seeing him do this I caught him (bigger One) and put him into Other Tank with Pataches of Algae and Also Valonoia Bubble Alage.




SHORT SAMPLE (Version)

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If you like the Music (Full Length with Extra Footage)
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Determined little creature.
I should add a few to my tank, see if they help with the bubble algea.
So you do have a decent bunch of fish. Good.
Sunburst is one of my favorite fish, although I’ve never been very successful at keeping them.
Also love the blackcap- another I’ve never really kept!
Nice collection.


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Old 09/08/2018, 10:16 PM   #535
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Sunburst is one of my favorite fish, although I’ve never been very successful at keeping them.
Yes, he is quite spectacular Looking and really stands out in the Tank.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR "Why you had Problems Keeping Them"?

I am kind of worried about him. Store has a Pair, but I only took one. Then I read they do better in pairs, but store sold the other.

When he was in QT,

he was like breathing in Whole Cubes of Frozen Spirulina Brine Shrimp in one gulp. So I had High Confidence is his readiness for DT.

I didn't pay attention to his Eatting In DT.

But recently it caught my Attention that he does chase food with Enthusiasm, but doesn't eat much.
Rakie has one and said they are picky eatters.

I've been trying all kind of things to get him to eat more vigorously. (Food Variety).
He chases, and then just nibbles. (Seems not much for a fish his size)

Maybe he is eating something else, or filter feeding. No idea.

He is as Plump and Thick as a Fish his size can get.



Not terribly worried, but concerned since I like him. Very Peaceful, shy to other fish, but out all the time.


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Old 09/09/2018, 07:09 AM   #536
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Thanks. He is special since very bright red (even with his tiny size).
Wish he would come out more. He hides in QT too much since I gave him too many hiding places to feel safe.
Hoping when he goes into DT he shows up more.
He will be the only Wrasse so should get along with established fish.

How long do you quarantine? Any meds in there, or is it for observation?


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How long do you quarantine? Any meds in there, or is it for observation?
One thing I don't do is offer advice on things I am not highly knowledgeable about. You will find plenty of good information if you search the forums (ON PROPER, best Practice QT)

However I will share my experiences and recent practices.

#1) For over a decade I never used to do QT and (got lucky) till one day a few years ago where I added a replacement Clown to my Other Kitchen Tank. Appears he had Velvet and one by one (very quickly) all my fish died including my 7 year old Powder Blue Tang that was my buddy. (Big Pain, had to run Tank Fallow for 12 weeks)

#2) After that WIPE OUT experience (big lesson learn) and this new Tank I swore I would QT all my fish. I did exactly that, and have Zero regrets since so far so good, all my DT fish are doing well. I did lose a few fish in QT during the process. QT not DT to be clear.

Each QT TANK iteration I did started with a Seachem (AMMONIA ALERT) To to Warn me about High Ammonia Levels, and that helped me catch an Amonia Spike (that surely saved one of my QT fish doing a quick Water Change to bring down levels).
I also ran the QT's using a hang on Filter with Seachem Matrix Media, and used Seachem Stability to quickly establish Bio-Filter[/B].

#3) I did a variety of QT methods that depended on the fish and symptoms observed.

3a) I Did CopperSafe (gentler than Curpramine) and ATI Furan-2 when I had a school of Anthias and some started Dying. I managed to save 2 Fish and they are in my Tank now dong very well.

3b) One QT I pre-treated the fish with PRAZIPro for possible parasites. (didn't see any symptoms, just did it since fish type was susceptible to them).

3c) When My Copperband got ICH I did the Tank Transfer Method (No Meds), and it worked perfectly to get rid of his ich. I no longer FEAR ICH (in QT) anymore, since I 100% trust TTM works if done properly.

3d) and for the healthy looking, and good eating fish I used KENT ZOE Vitamins to treat the Frozen Food and used it in my Masstick Food Mix) to boost their Immune system.


3e) In the case of the last QT fish (the Magma Wrasse), he was so healthy looking in QT I simply did the MINIMAL Observation period of 3 Weeks. (but the Longer is Better for observation period, and varies if using Meds or doing TTM)

4) Finally when I felt it's time to Transfer the fish from QT to DT, I would do a 3 stage acclimatization. Catch Fish in container with QT Water. MATCH container TEMP to DT Temp. Empty half way, and fill with DT water then Wait 5 minutes. Repeat 3 Times. (I prefer this method over Dripping method since it CAN be more risky when Carbon Dioxide mixes into Water with Ammonia creating a toxic solution). Long term Dripping can be better for sensitive Specimens if done properly.


One last word....have a good covered QT, since I actually lost 3-4 fish from Jumping out, which is more than I lost to diseases (for this new Tank Setup).


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One thing I don't do is offer advice on things I am not highly knowledgeable about. You will find plenty of good information if you search the forums (ON PROPER, best Practice QT)

However I will share my experiences and recent practices.

#1) For over a decade I never used to do QT and (got lucky) till one day a few years ago where I added a replacement Clown to my Other Kitchen Tank. Appears he had Velvet and one by one (very quickly) all my fish died including my 7 year old Powder Blue Tang that was my buddy. (Big Pain, had to run Tank Fallow for 12 weeks)

#2) After that WIPE OUT experience (big lesson learn) and this new Tank I swore I would QT all my fish. I did exactly that, and have Zero regrets since so far so good, all my DT fish are doing well. I did lose a few fish in QT during the process. QT not DT to be clear.

Each QT TANK iteration I did started with a Seachem (AMMONIA ALERT) To to Warn me about High Ammonia Levels, and that helped me catch an Amonia Spike (that surely saved one of my QT fish doing a quick Water Change to bring down levels).
I also ran the QT's using a hang on Filter with Seachem Matrix Media, and used Seachem Stability to quickly establish Bio-Filter[/B].

#3) I did a variety of QT methods that depended on the fish and symptoms observed.

3a) I Did CopperSafe (gentler than Curpramine) and ATI Furan-2 when I had a school of Anthias and some started Dying. I managed to save 2 Fish and they are in my Tank now dong very well.

3b) One QT I pre-treated the fish with PRAZIPro for possible parasites. (didn't see any symptoms, just did it since fish type was susceptible to them).

3c) When My Copperband got ICH I did the Tank Transfer Method (No Meds), and it worked perfectly to get rid of his ich. I no longer FEAR ICH (in QT) anymore, since I 100% trust TTM works if done properly.

3d) and for the healthy looking, and good eating fish I used KENT ZOE Vitamins to treat the Frozen Food and used it in my Masstick Food Mix) to boost their Immune system.


3e) In the case of the last QT fish (the Magma Wrasse), he was so healthy looking in QT I simply did the MINIMAL Observation period of 3 Weeks. (but the Longer is Better for observation period, and varies if using Meds or doing TTM)

4) Finally when I felt it's time to Transfer the fish from QT to DT, I would do a 3 stage acclimatization. Catch Fish in container with QT Water. MATCH container TEMP to DT Temp. Empty half way, and fill with DT water then Wait 5 minutes. Repeat 3 Times. (I prefer this method over Dripping method since it CAN be more risky when Carbon Dioxide mixes into Water with Ammonia creating a toxic solution). Long term Dripping can be better for sensitive Specimens if done properly.


One last word....have a good covered QT, since I actually lost 3-4 fish from Jumping out, which is more than I lost to diseases (for this new Tank Setup).

Thank you for the in depth reply. I know there is no "one" answer, and that quarantine method, among a few other topics, are very debated. My big tank has just finished up cycling, and I am planning on adding some fish soon. I have a spare 40g setup that I am planning on using in a similar manner- keep it running as a QT, clean it out in between batches of fish, use some copper based medication.


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Thank you for the in depth reply. I know there is no "one" answer, and that quarantine method, among a few other topics, are very debated. My big tank has just finished up cycling, and I am planning on adding some fish soon. I have a spare 40g setup that I am planning on using in a similar manner- keep it running as a QT, clean it out in between batches of fish, use some copper based medication.
40 Gal QT is perfect. I used 10G's and 35 G. The 10 Gals were great for Tank Transfer Method, but for longer term the 35 Gal was better since it didn't get as polluted so quickly when trying to train fish with food they don't exactly eat right all the time.

One thing to note and I'm not sure this is true. I was told once you use Certain Coppers in a Tank it get's into the Silicone and then it's contaminated for future use for Corals. (I am not sure this is true with Curpramine/CopperSafe).


AND BEST OF LUCK with your new Tank and NEW FISH. Luck is part of the NEW FISH GAME....Big Part. (To improve your luck/chances. Inspect fish in the Store well. Come a few times. And ask that they feed the tank to see if your choice fish eats. I'd would always take a Eating Fish over a Bigger fish, and actually shy away from a Fish I don't see eating in the store. Too stressful to Try and get a Fish Eatting in QT).


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Since I’ve always just added fish to my display without qt, I never get to observe if a fish is already eating well before getting added to the chaos of the display.
I can’treallt say why I’ve had trouble but I always found them very timid and not big eaters..
I assume they just didn’t keep up with the rest of the fish.
It’s been many years since I tried any..


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Old 09/09/2018, 01:42 PM   #541
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Since I’ve always just added fish to my display without qt, I never get to observe if a fish is already eating well before getting added to the chaos of the display.
I can’treallt say why I’ve had trouble but I always found them very timid and not big eaters..
I assume they just didn’t keep up with the rest of the fish.
It’s been many years since I tried any..
Perfect Matt, your observation of past matches my current observation.
The Sunburst Fathead Anthias fish, although big an hearty looking is very timid (but was quite the eater when Alone and not intimidated by other Fish in QT).
His behavior is "Sorry.....Am I in your way? You Eat First please..." to all fish.


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Tank Fish Inventory (Photo Album)

Just like the Corals the Fish will mature/grow. Snapped a photo of each for future reference.



Interesting to see the Cariberryi Anthias changing slowly with features and more Color.

And looking forward to what the Juvenille Magma Wrasse will end up looking like Mature.


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