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Old 04/19/2018, 03:41 AM   #1
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302 scrubber or clear water scrubber

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I am looking at one of thes scrubber either the 302 aquatice or the clear water from brs.any advice on which one would be better
I have a 300 main disay with a 40 gallon sump and another 40 gallon sump to hold skimmer heater apex phrobes
Now i have gotten some hair algea in main tank and phosphate test 0
Heard great things about the scrubbers going to try the pro reseins next on my ro water to help insure water is best it can be


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Old 04/20/2018, 12:00 AM   #2
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Pro resins, saw that video by BRS. Honestly as of recently, I wouldn't trust squat BRS has to say. They are a company that sells to the reefing community, and as of late they are pushing the gimmick meter to the limit.

Pro line of DI resin, like seriously? What is so pro about it over the regular DI esin that you've been selling for years? Also this new Pharma pouches for bulk chemicals that aren't even bulk anymore and cost twice as much as they used to, and more then likely are the same exact product they used to sell but in a fancy package now.

Yup BRS has become like any other LFS....... Believe me or not, but do some research yourself and you'll see what I'm ranting about.


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Old 04/20/2018, 03:35 AM   #3
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Thanks for the info always willing to learn


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Current Tank Info: 300 gallon main tank,70 Gallon sump,70 gallon remote sump, reef octopus 300- 12 inch skimmer, skimz Biopellet reactor
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Old 04/20/2018, 08:40 AM   #4
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If you are patient, shoot user Floyd R Turbo a PM. Get on his waiting list for one of his Turbo’s Aquatics algae scrubbers. I’m fortunate enough to own one of his L2 R4 scrubbers that I will be setting up on my new build. There is no better ATS on the market right now IMO. His scrubbers feature custom dimmable LEDs (which is a huge benefit for dialing in growth IMO), a tunable output pipe, a removable growth chamber for ease of cleaning and a light shielded skirted slot pipe for unimpeded water flow as the algae grows. He offers multiple sizes for differest sized tanks.




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Old 04/21/2018, 02:43 PM   #5
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Looks nice! Thanks for the video


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Old 04/22/2018, 01:56 AM   #6
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While I appreciate Floyd's advancements in ATS's, I find his scrubbers to be a little expensive. But then again, what isn't in this hobby?

I made pretty much the exact same thing as one of his scrubbers for less then 100$.

You can also get by with just a slot pipe, a screen, and a hang on clamp lamp. Less then 50$.

But if your into fancy shmansy, and willing to part with extra cash, then by all means Floyd makes top notch scrubbers. Probably one of the best manufactured ones in production.

WOW 419$ for the L2 and without a pump! Theres really less then 100$ in parts there. Can anyone say profit margin?

Sorry I'm just so cynical this morning, I love Floyd and what he has done for scrubbers. He also helps out anyone with a question on either how to make one, or what the issues with one you made might be. I just find the pricing for his scrubbers to be less then ideal and raping his customers.


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Old 04/22/2018, 03:20 AM   #7
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While I agree that his scrubbers are on the high end in both features and pricing. I will say that characterizing his products as a collection of less than $100 in parts is grossly misinformed and unfair. A closer look at his scrubbers reveal all custom injected ABS molded parts. In the world of manufacturing, the tooling required to produce small batch injection molded ABS parts is far from a cheap endeavor. His interlocking finned heatsinks, dimmable LED arrays and his LED driverboards, which are also Apex compatible BTW, are all custom fabricated. Look at his scrubbers from soup to nuts and you won’t find any off the shelf parts. Each component is custom made and purpose built, specifically for his scrubbers.

Now take a look at Clearwater or 302 Aquatics scrubbers for comparison. They are essentially a fabricated acrylic box with off the shelf bolt on LED fixtures (that you can find on eBay or Amazon) and standard schedule 40 or 80 pvc parts. Worlds apart from a Turbo’s Aquatics L Series Revision 4 scrubber by comparison.


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Old 04/22/2018, 03:56 AM   #8
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While I agree that his scrubbers are on the high end in both features and pricing. I will say that characterizing his products as a collection of less than $100 in parts is grossly misinformed and unfair. A closer look at his scrubbers reveal all custom injected ABS molded parts. In the world of manufacturing, the tooling required to produce small batch injection molded ABS parts is far from a cheap endeavor. His interlocking finned heatsinks, dimmable LED arrays and his LED driverboards, which are also Apex compatible BTW, are all custom fabricated. Look at his scrubbers from soup to nuts and you won’t find any off the shelf parts. Each component is custom made and purpose built, specifically for his scrubbers.

Now take a look at Clearwater or 302 Aquatics scrubbers for comparison. They are essentially a fabricated acrylic box with off the shelf bolt on LED fixtures (that you can find on eBay or Amazon) and standard schedule 40 or 80 pvc parts. Worlds apart from a Turbo’s Aquatics L Series Revision 4 scrubber by comparison.
Totally agree with you here. Like I said after I posted though(edited post), I'm feeling a bit cynical this morning.

I wouldn't give 302 5$ for one of their scrubbers. Floyd on the other hand.... If I wasn't DIY handy, I would have easily fork over the 400$ for one of his units(actually considered this before I realized how easy to DIY one was).

Again, Floyd is a great guy and helps in the scrubbers thread whenever possible(actually think he started it?), and whatever question. Whether it be acrylic fabrication, scrubber details, problems with existing scrubbers, what lights, etc. Every question typically answered with proper info.He actually gives back to the community instead of just trying to sell us his product... 302 on the other hand is just there for the profit margin.


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Old 04/22/2018, 04:02 AM   #9
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I’m not gonna lie... I was super fortunate and was able to score a pristine Turbo’s L2 R4 ATS off the ReefCentral classifieds for an absolute steal... no waitlist either!


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Iím not gonna lie... I was super fortunate and was able to score a pristine Turboís L2 R4 ATS off the ReefCentral classifieds for an absolute steal... no waitlist either!

Think I know the one you bought, I was eyeing it myself, then when it sold is when I decided to DIY one myself.


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Old 04/22/2018, 08:06 AM   #11
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Great info i have been talking to floyd great guy!!!just have to get the boss on board


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Old 05/05/2018, 07:58 AM   #12
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Another option is the route I went.. I DIYed an upflow ats.. and it has worked wonders in my system.. 20 for the light on amizon.. some spare 1/4 air tubing.. 3 bucks for the screen and an old tote lid and zip ties and a cardboard box with tin foil reflector lol

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Old 05/05/2018, 08:01 AM   #13
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I got the upflow idea from SantaMonica on this forum...

I'd like to buy one of the scrubbers offered by SantaMonica and or floyd... just can't afford one

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