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Old Yesterday, 12:19 PM   #201
Michael Hoaster
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Ha! That's what I figured - you're hanging around LED forums now. I'd love to see an update on your tank! How about a current FTS? Thanks for the damsel recommendation. Gorgeous fish! Does he get along with the clowns?


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Old Yesterday, 12:49 PM   #202
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I frequent the 4Runner boards to gather ideas for future projects. Haha


The clown picks on the damsel somewhat, but it doesn’t keep the damsel from swimming where it wants. The bi-color blenny hangs out in its shell in the upper back corner and swims around up front. It doesn’t get picked on or pick on anything, but the glass. Lol
Waiting for the lfs to get another Pygmy cherub angel though. They haven’t gotten any in a while now.
Cleaned up the 2.5g and found a little purple crab in the back! Going to the beach in 2 weeks and plan to make it a beach only tank. Currently has a hermit and little conch in it.


That actually was the most recent FTS, from June. Haha I’ll have to take another today.


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Old Yesterday, 02:24 PM   #203
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Ok, I promised pics of the new fake wall progress and here it is. Note that I didn't say GOOD pics…






This project has proved difficult. It took me all day yesterday to get this done. PITA! I may need another sheet of egg crate, to get better transitions.


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Old Today, 12:13 PM   #204
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I've been trying to figure out how best to get what I want, with the new fake wall. What I want is a wall that contains and hides the wave box and flow-through vents, and also looks natural and flows into the back wall, and tapers naturally down to the bottom, as well as towards the front glass. This could be achieved easily enough with lots of foam, but then you have buoyancy issues. And going back and removing foam would be difficult, with the egg crate. So ideally the foam is a fairly thin skin. I'm finding using the egg crate alone to be difficult work into natural, flowing shapes.

I think a better solution would be to sculpt the shape I want with a filler material, and then foam over it. Then I'd need to remove the filler and attach the foam skin to the egg crate structure. Using a removable filler would allow me to play around with it to get a good look, before I commit to foam.

I have had success with a filler material in the past, with the fake mangrove root. Anyone remember what I used? Tin foil! Could that work? I think so. Fortunately, I could try this out without destroying the progress I've made, so I think I'll give it a try.

So I'll first sculpt the shape I want in foil. Then I'll cover that with a plastic garbage bag. Then I'll foam over that. Next I'll remove the foam skin, remove the foil, then attach the foam skin to the egg crate structure. For attachment points, I'll just need make it so there is no foil in some places, so I can adhere the foam directly to the framework here and there.

Thoughts? Does this sound plausible?


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Old Today, 03:43 PM   #205
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It sounds plausible, especially since you used a similiar process for the fake mangrove root. I am speaking from absoluting no experience in this area whatsoever so take my opinion with a grain of salt.


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Old Today, 03:52 PM   #206
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Cool about the goby, but a bummer that it took the place of a barnacle blenny. Any chance Liveaquaria will send you another blenny?

That damsel is beautiful! Sweet! Sounds like the project is coming along too. Have you considered using PVC is a support for your egg crate, since the foam will be away from the tank edge, maybe it will help prevent the foam from changing shape due to buoyancy? You can use a heat gun to bend the shapes to get better contours and get rid of straight lines. Maybe that would work on the egg crate too? I haven't tried using a heat gun on egg crate. No matter what you wind up using, I'm sure it will look great. I like your idea about the filler material and using the plastic bag to keep foam from sticking to it. As frustrated as you might get, when it's done, your creative juices will be rewarded when you get to sit back and admire your work...as will we


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Old Today, 04:25 PM   #207
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Thanks Dawn, I appreciate the support!

Thanks Kevin! I didn't bother about the goby, and now it's been months, so no worries.

I'm not sure what you mean on the PVC. Like a sheet of plastic backing on the egg crate? I was thinking I would need to do something like that, before I came up with the filler idea. I think my idea will work. I'll need to get the plastic bag material adhered to the foil, maybe with a spray glue.

It's funny, I was writing about the project and I just sort of stumbled on the idea, as I went. That has happened several times when I've posted about challenging situations. Just talking about a problem can lead right to the solution! I tend to do things in a linear fashion, rather than planning it all out in advance. "I'll start with this and see what should come next" is pretty much how I do stuff.

This project has been a catch-22 for me. Since I've kind of dreaded it, little gets done. So I inch along in small, tolerable steps. If this new idea works, things should pick up. And it should look really good if all goes well…


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Old Today, 07:36 PM   #208
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Thanks Dawn, I appreciate the support!

Thanks Kevin! I didn't bother about the goby, and now it's been months, so no worries.

I'm not sure what you mean on the PVC. Like a sheet of plastic backing on the egg crate? I was thinking I would need to do something like that, before I came up with the filler idea. I think my idea will work. I'll need to get the plastic bag material adhered to the foil, maybe with a spray glue.

It's funny, I was writing about the project and I just sort of stumbled on the idea, as I went. That has happened several times when I've posted about challenging situations. Just talking about a problem can lead right to the solution! I tend to do things in a linear fashion, rather than planning it all out in advance. "I'll start with this and see what should come next" is pretty much how I do stuff.

This project has been a catch-22 for me. Since I've kind of dreaded it, little gets done. So I inch along in small, tolerable steps. If this new idea works, things should pick up. And it should look really good if all goes well…
When it begins to come together for you, does it ignite you and get you on the jazz? When I catch a glimpse (in my mind) of the finished product I turn into a maniac about getting it finished.


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