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Old 07/30/2016, 07:12 AM   #101
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I have 4 x WP60 + 5 x DCT15000 + 6 x DC12000

3 of the DCT15000 are returns to my DT
2 are to create pressure for my injection skimmer

4 of the DC12000 are for my surge + skimmer feed + UV feed + ATS

and I keep one DC12000 as a spare.

One of the DC12000 has failed after about 2.5 years. The rest are working.

My experience has been good because I clean the pumps regularly. While that seems like a lot of work, it really isn't. I use muriatic acid and that cuts down the time from hours to minutes. The cost difference compared to other options for this many pumps would have shut down my ability to even be in this hobby.

I think if I had a FOWLR tank where I wasn't dosing insane levels of calcium and alkalinity, I wouldn't need to clean them more than once a year.


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Old 08/19/2016, 02:56 PM   #102
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Thanks to all the reviews in this post, I just ordered a DC12000 for my 120G Cube for the main return.

I still have a sequence pump I'll be using for my closed loop (assuming the new seals keep it from leaking).

Can't wait to get it hooked up and replace the massive external pump I currently have hooked up.


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Old 08/19/2016, 08:51 PM   #103
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I've been using a dc12000 and dc3000 for over two years with success. I have cleaned both once. I have spares that are just new in box. I also have been running two in skimmers, again with spares sitting on my shelf, I'm pretty happy with them.


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Old 08/20/2016, 04:37 AM   #104
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DC12000 stopped working at the 6 month mark, never replaced and went back to a WaterBlaster.
DCT6000 going on 1 year and still working fine.


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Old 08/20/2016, 10:14 PM   #105
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did you clean it?


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Old 08/21/2016, 07:22 AM   #106
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did you clean it?
Yes I did. I believe it was the pump electronics. The pump would be dead, I would unplug it and it would startup for 15 secs and shut down. Impeller spun freely upon inspection and cleaning. Brick would stay lit if not hooked up to the controller which leads me to believe that it's not the power supply.

Either way, Fish Street would not replace it since I technically had it for 13 months (did not put into service immediately) and I did not trust it enough to replace.


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Old 08/21/2016, 08:54 AM   #107
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The electronics would usually fail so it doesn't start at all. Starting then stopping usually means that the resistance to turn went up and it shut down to protect itself. Sometimes if the impeller moves but there's still buildup inside, the high speed causes excessive friction.

If you haven't thrown it out, you might want to try to give it another go. I had one do the same with me and I was about to throw it out, but my dad decided he could do a better job cleaning it (and he did).


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Old 08/27/2016, 10:32 AM   #108
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My DCT-4000 just crapped out at 9 months, no cleaning. Had a DC-12000 that didn't last more than a month.


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Old 09/21/2016, 08:09 AM   #109
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DCS-12000 going 1 year strong. Cleaned it once.


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Old 09/21/2016, 09:06 AM   #110
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I have the following set of Jebaos:

1x DCT15000
2x DC12000
1x DC6000
2x PP8
4x RW15
4x PP15
5x Jebao-Apex Adapters

Some of the return pumps are a little over 2yrs old with the rest being a bit over 1yr old. I guess I can consider myself lucky that out of 14 pumps I've only had one RW15 go bad and it happened while it was still under warranty so I got a replacement motor at no cost.

If you give them the proper maintenance I don't see why they shouldn't last.


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Old 09/21/2016, 05:03 PM   #111
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Don't have long term view, but my short-term view is that they stink on ice. One lasted 3 months; the other 4 months. Pure junk IMO.


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Old 09/22/2016, 09:17 AM   #112
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DC6000 running 14 months, cleaned it once. I'm very satisfied.


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Old 09/22/2016, 09:44 AM   #113
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DC6000 running 14 months, cleaned it once. I'm very satisfied.


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I just had to replace an impeller on one of my DCT 6000s after about a year. It stopped working due to lack of maintenance. There was some calcium build up that caused the impeller to stick to the ceramic bearing. The pump was so strong that it was still spinning in the rubber piece that holds the bearing. I ordered 2 replacement impellers for about $14 each. I will now be inspecting my pumps every 3 months.


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Old 09/22/2016, 09:49 AM   #114
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I just had to replace an impeller on one of my DCT 6000s after about a year. It stopped working due to lack of maintenance. There was some calcium build up that caused the impeller to stick to the ceramic bearing. The pump was so strong that it was still spinning in the rubber piece that holds the bearing. I ordered 2 replacement impellers for about $14 each. I will now be inspecting my pumps every 3 months.
I had this same issue. A vinegar bath cleared it up though.


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Old 09/22/2016, 10:06 AM   #115
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I had this same issue. A vinegar bath cleared it up though.
I tried the vinegar bath and it didnt work. It usually has worked for my other pumps.


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Old 09/22/2016, 10:16 AM   #116
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I tried the vinegar bath and it didnt work. It usually has worked for my other pumps.
I had to vinegar bath it, force the parts to spin by hand that were locked up (this loosened a bunch of the calcium buildup), then I gave it another bath. I may have repeated a couple times I think. Anyway, it was good as new after. Unfortunately I thought it was shot at first and replaced the pump entirely. It's currently on water mixing duty.


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Old 10/19/2016, 07:33 PM   #117
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I bought my first DC-6000 about 14 months ago. It died within two or three weeks. Seller sent me a replacement pump body, which has now been running 13 months non-stop. Like you, I'm curious to see how well these pumps last over several years or more instead of 6-12 months. Same with the Jebao powerheads - lots of folks swear by them but they've been out less than two years so nobody knows how they are going to hold up long term yet.

I always take it with a grain of salt when someone says "these things are going to last forever - mine's been running four months already without a problem"
I thought I would give an update since this thread is about long term reliability. As mentioned 21 months ago, my first DC-6000 died the first month. I've now been running its replacement continuously since December, 2013. Now just a month or two shy of 3 full years and this thing has been rock solid reliable.

I was skeptical at first but am now very pleased with it.



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Old 11/26/2016, 09:37 PM   #118
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I'll toss my experience in here as well:

I currently have 2 Rw-4's, 1 Rw-8, 1 DC6000, and 1 DC12000.
I've had one rw-4 for over 2 years now, no problems. clean only when it starts to slow down. the other rw-4 is probably a year old, same cleaning schedule.

The Rw-8 is about a year old as well, but it's too powerful for either of my tanks, so it just mixes water. cleaned only when it doesn't spin anymore.

The DC-6000 is now 2 years old. Used in sump. Never been taken out for cleaning. Ever. Runs constantly at 100%. 4' head height. shuts down 3 times a day for automatic fish feeding.
It's in my small bedroom, no doors on the stand, and it's dead silent. The only time I can hear it run is when It first starts up. That's with a dead silent overflow as well.
Recently bought a DC12000 as a backup in case it takes a dump.

I also have an MP40QD, and an MP10es. Both are really nice powerheads, and have great preset programs to run. However, I can't justify the price of them when I can buy literally 2 Jebao's and get some wild water movement, and have a backup.
I plan on using Jebao stuff again when I setup my 180 gallon tank.

For the price, I'm really impressed with my Jebao equipment.


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Old 11/26/2016, 10:19 PM   #119
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Though regularly cleaned, none of my Jebao pumps made it much more than 2 years. No more cheap Chinese knock-offs for me; sticking with the overpriced US/European stuff. Though I appreciate that the lifetime costs may be comparable, the lack of reliability simply risks too much $$$ sunk into livestock.


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Old 11/26/2016, 11:54 PM   #120
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For my return pump I went with a Waveline DC12000, but I have two Jebao RW15s in my 120 that have been running for a year. The leds stopped lighting up on one of the controller pads, but I switched them over to my Vertex Cerebra controller about a month ago. So, I'm not using the stock controllers anymore. I think the RW15s do a great job for the money and wouldn't mind seeing Jebao release a more expensive higher end product. Not sure what changes were made to the PP15s. I'm sure I'll stick with Jebao for powerheads instead of Ecotech, but when I need more flow I would consider a couple of Gyres.


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Old 11/27/2016, 05:54 AM   #121
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I have a DC 12000, one of the originals. It has been running for almost 3 years. It's my return pump. It pumps from my sump in the basement, through about 15 feet of tubing to my tank upstairs. I have had no problems with it. I clean it every 3 months along with all my other equipment. I do have another, collecting dust in the corner just in case.

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Old 11/27/2016, 05:59 PM   #122
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I had a dc 6000 lasted 2 + 1/4 years at 100% with 5 feet of head. you got to have some type of backup no matter what pump you run for your return


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Old 11/27/2016, 08:06 PM   #123
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I have a DCT-6000 (1585gph)on my 125 in the living room runs at 60% ,,over 80% I can hear the whine..
DCT-4000(1086gph) on my 40g breeder AIO runs at 30%
Both have worked well for me..
Bought them on Amazon Nov 20 2015 for $62 and $72..
The 6000 has been running since I bought it..
Started using the 4000 last month..
I plan on ordering two more this payday so I can replace two more ac pumps in my office..

I also have three of the bigger RW series powerheads that have been running since Sept 2015 with no problems. Was four, I had a failure at 6 months on one of them.


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Old 12/14/2016, 08:12 AM   #124
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Quick question about these pumps.

I got a great deal on a brand new DCT 12000 and it will be here in a few days. Do the controllers have a memory if power is cut from and then returned to them? I want to know if I can just use this like my current pump when I put my ReefKeeper in standby and have it turn off, as in power to the outlet goes off, then comes back on after a preset time.

If you have to reset the controller or independently put it into a feed mode, I'll just use it for salt mixing or something.


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Old 12/14/2016, 08:58 AM   #125
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Quick question about these pumps.

I got a great deal on a brand new DCT 12000 and it will be here in a few days. Do the controllers have a memory if power is cut from and then returned to them? I want to know if I can just use this like my current pump when I put my ReefKeeper in standby and have it turn off, as in power to the outlet goes off, then comes back on after a preset time.

If you have to reset the controller or independently put it into a feed mode, I'll just use it for salt mixing or something.
I just got a dcp-8000 If your power goes off the pump will restart at its lowest power setting and then ramp up to where it was before the power failure..

I tested this first thing.I have had it running since Monday its super quiet and i like being able to see the watts drawn by the pump. I run it on 68% and it used 44 watts of power according to its controller..
It did not come with a 1 1/2 inch fitting so i had to make one from a pvc threaded fitting


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