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Old 10/15/2018, 12:46 AM   #1
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My solution to make an anemone safe powerhead

So ive been into aquariums for nearly 20 years but salt water i just got into maybe a month ago or less.. My tank already has fish corsl and a neon green lookimg bubble tip anemone.. And yes the tank is cy led i used a gallon of nitrying bacteria so dont ask im not an idiot lol.


Anyway.. In fresh water we never really hsve problems with stuff getting sucked into power heads but i have in the past with old fashioned undergravel powerheads had snails go into the power head openeing and litterally get sucked out if the shell or pulled to death.. The pre filter mesh if you call it is too large on these pumps.. And so the solution was to use foam filters and that worled but they always get full and have to be cleaned 24.7

I habe a koralia power head like im sure alot of you probably have.. And i wondered if an anemone can get sucked into it. Sure enough after looking it up i saw the many wonderfull videos of a anemone floating by and then getting pulled in like a tree shedder.


So i put some blue filter floss over it and within 2 days flow in the tank was 30% of what it used to be.

So i started thinking.. If filter floss gets clogged fast then foam will get clogged faster and there isnt really anything else i can think of.


I remembered i have some plastic anti cat window screen material left over from when i did my screens in the house. Im sure some of you use it as a top to keep fish from jumping out if the tank.

Why cant that be used as a protector for the powerheads ? Its small enough to keep them out but big enough to allow flow and not get clogged up from every particle in the tank.

I wrapped it around my power head and use two zip ties.. Ill probly get black ones.. But for now.. It works.. Flow is strong and i dont see an anemone getting sucked into that.

What do you think ?




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Old 10/15/2018, 02:59 AM   #2
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I think that is still going to get clogged fairly quickly and you’ll have to cut the zip ties every time you have to clean it. I’m not sure how strong that pump is, but for most that are strong enough for a reef tank that screen wouldn’t prevent an anemone from getting sucked into it. It may help in causing less damage to the anemone though.


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Old 10/15/2018, 10:44 AM   #3
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Nice effort. If the mesh is durable, you can take it out to the back yard and spray it weekly.

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Old 10/15/2018, 04:44 PM   #4
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Its plastic so why wouldnt it be.. As for getting clogged quickly how do you figure ? Foam gets clogged wuickly filter floss quickly 2 days pump barely pushed anything.. Do you have windows with screens.. Its the same thing.. If it gets clogged i coukd take a tooth brush on it and never remove it


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Old 10/15/2018, 06:27 PM   #5
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the impellers get dirty and gummed up and need to be cleaned. Its going to be more of a pain and troublesome everytime you need to break the powerhead down. what you will see on the outside of your screening doesnt determine that underneath things are problematic. Coraline algae will also form on this closing up the openings further.

foam ones are a pain yes but you can take them off easily and rinse them out in about 10 minutes. in that time doubtful the anemone will go into the powerhead.


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Old 10/16/2018, 03:16 AM   #6
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Grand idea. I love it. Use your own methods that suits your purpose and see if it proves to be fail-proof. I am going to keep this idea in mind for my anemone tank.

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Old 10/16/2018, 03:20 AM   #7
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Grand idea. I love it. Use your own methods that suit your purpose and see if it proves to be fail-proof. I am going to keep this idea in mind for my anemone tank.

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Old 10/16/2018, 05:55 AM   #8
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the impellers get dirty and gummed up and need to be cleaned. Its going to be more of a pain and troublesome everytime you need to break the powerhead down. what you will see on the outside of your screening doesnt determine that underneath things are problematic. Coraline algae will also form on this closing up the openings further.

foam ones are a pain yes but you can take them off easily and rinse them out in about 10 minutes. in that time doubtful the anemone will go into the powerhead.

Okay but why are you dissmissing my idea.. would you rather clean a foam pad every 1-2 days or clean this every few weeks month ?

Im confused here. And how is this a pain to remove.. Get a knife cut zip ties remove.. clean wrap zip tie and done..

Maybe because i work on cars and weld for a living i dont find this hard to do but i guess for most people the effort of taking a swiss army knife and cutting a zip tie every few weeks over pulling a foam pad off every damn day is too hard.


And if you think a foam pad stops brown slime and crap from growing on impellers youre wrong... Im just trying to grasp my mind around your logic of taking 10 min every 48hrs to clean a filter pad vs taking 10 min to clean this up when if it gets clogged...


Geesh...



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Old 10/16/2018, 05:56 AM   #9
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I have an idea also ...its for gyre pumps..I'm going to glue pieces of jagged eggrate all around the gyre to the glass..any nems will avoid it's jagged edge and steer clear...I'll have to post a pic when I get it done...been thinking about it for a while...gonna use black eggcrate so it's less visible.


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Old 10/16/2018, 11:24 AM   #10
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There's a guy on FB who sells 3D printed covers. He makes then for MP series powerheads as well as a couple of others. So far, his is the best design I've seen because it keeps the nem far enough away from the powerhead to do damage.

Any design that simply wraps a material directly over the powerhead usually doesn't work because if the powerhead is strong enough to keep the nem on the powerhead, it can kill the nem.

Plus, there's always a balance between aesthetics, ease of use (in this case cleaning), and effectiveness.


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Old 10/16/2018, 04:30 PM   #11
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Okay but why are you dissmissing my idea.. would you rather clean a foam pad every 1-2 days or clean this every few weeks month ?

Im confused here. And how is this a pain to remove.. Get a knife cut zip ties remove.. clean wrap zip tie and done..

Maybe because i work on cars and weld for a living i dont find this hard to do but i guess for most people the effort of taking a swiss army knife and cutting a zip tie every few weeks over pulling a foam pad off every damn day is too hard.


And if you think a foam pad stops brown slime and crap from growing on impellers youre wrong... Im just trying to grasp my mind around your logic of taking 10 min every 48hrs to clean a filter pad vs taking 10 min to clean this up when if it gets clogged...


Geesh...
Im a commercial plumber by trade, I have had tanks and let me tell you right now its fresh and exciting. 12 years later tank maintenance become tiresome and annoying as time goes on. Cutting zip ties every once and a while and rewrapping it will become an annoyance. Im looking out for you in the long run, the foam is a quick simple fix opposed to having to pull the entire pump out and break down. No need to get so defensive about your idea. Ive never covered a pump in my life and had a clown harem/bta tank. As a welder you should know your vaule in time....just trying to help you out brother.


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Old 10/27/2018, 06:39 PM   #12
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I've kept BTAs for a few years now and in my experience, they don't move around too much. But I've always covered my wavemaker just in case. I routinely go for weeks before cleaning the sponge around my wavemaker. Try stopping your pump while feeding and see if that helps.


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Old 10/27/2018, 08:24 PM   #13
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the bta/nem can hug it all day. no issue what so ever, the first couple of months i clean it once a month, since everything is new still leach out po4. after that, i havent clean it for more than 4 months now. still look the same as 4 months ago.


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