Hawaii Supreme Court Ruling Halts Aquarium Fishery - Page 2

alton · 04/23/2018, 08:02 AM

https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2018...marine-fishes/

homer1475 · 04/23/2018, 09:36 AM

https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2018...marine-fishes/

Looks like it's still banned for the aquarium trade, but you can fish(pole and hook, spearfishing, etc) and kill any reef fish without a permit. Makes no sense.

Daltonbilecki · 04/23/2018, 03:47 PM

Yep... absolutely stupid. They think taking the smallest fish alive is worse than taking the biggest reproducing fish out there... I also have property in Maui and only see yellow tangs on the very southern part of the island. Luckily you can still collect fish as long as its not for commercial use. I think people there disregard spear fishing as harming the fish population because they’ve been doing it for generations, whereas the ornamental fish trade has only been around for maybe 40 years

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homer1475 · 04/24/2018, 02:06 AM

After thinking about it. I feel their stance is at least with regard to sport fishing/fishing for food, your only taking a few fish a day. With the aquarium trade they are taking hundreds a day.

If you look at this way, you can kind of understand where they are going with it.

alton · 04/24/2018, 05:25 AM

I have never seen a commercial fisherman only take a few fish a day? The picture you and I posted shows just a few in just one market.

homer1475 · 04/24/2018, 07:05 AM

From what I read, only sport fishing is allowed. No commercial fishing.

Hence their stance and why they took it. Still doesn't make any sense, but its progress and looks as though the ban should be lifted with the new studies.

alton · 04/24/2018, 11:52 AM

This from one of the collectors in Hawaii
CALL TO ACTION BELOW PLEASE HELP US HELP YOU GET CHEAPER FISH AND MORE HAWAII FISH

Just in stock 4 achilles, 3 mustard, 6 Unicorn Lg,1 small broomtail file one of the smallest I have ever collected (15 inches). Also In sotck 20 male cross hatch, 16 female cross hatch and 2 smaller female cross hatch, 6 Bandit Angels 2- 3.25 to 4 inch, 2- 4.5 to 7 inches rest >7, 1 male dragon eel large, golden dwarf eels, 45 Show 10 inch to 7 inch med Yellow tangs, fishers, four spot butterflies, long nose butterflies, naos tangs large streamers and many others see list attached. In stock soon more flame wrasses., 150 smaller yellows, butterflies and kole. Sphex Lion Fish Hawaiian, small Japanese squirrel, feather dusters, hermits, sponges, armored urchins and many others.
20 naso tangs streamers med to xxlg, and many others see list attached.
In stock hard to get fish are the two small golden dwarf eels, show size sailfin tangs, niger triggers, goat fish xxlg colored, yellow harry hermits, purple star fish, pink nobby star fish, strawberry crabs,
Christmas Island fish arrive Tuesday tomorrow, we expect then goldflakes, declivis, 150 flame angels (some in stock now), 90 bartletts. Ordered black and one emperors etc. NO ONE RECIVED CXI FISH LAST WEEK THE FLIGHT WAS FULL. See list attached.
Thanks, RT Distributors
CALL TO ACTION
WE HOPE TO GET OUR SMALL MESH NETS PERMITS BACK SOON BUT TO DO SO WE NEED EVERYONES HELP BY SENDING A SHORT EMAIL

shrimpinator123 · 04/24/2018, 03:32 PM

It is suprising to me that they would rather see the Achilles tangs on ice rather then in someone's tank

04/23/2018, 09:36 AM	#27
homer1475 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,650	https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2018...marine-fishes/ Looks like it's still banned for the aquarium trade, but you can fish(pole and hook, spearfishing, etc) and kill any reef fish without a permit. Makes no sense. __________________ 80G SCA Build: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2560256 Originally posted by der_wille_zur_macht: "He's just taking his lunch to work"

04/24/2018, 02:06 AM	#29
homer1475 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,650	After thinking about it. I feel their stance is at least with regard to sport fishing/fishing for food, your only taking a few fish a day. With the aquarium trade they are taking hundreds a day. If you look at this way, you can kind of understand where they are going with it. __________________ 80G SCA Build: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2560256 Originally posted by der_wille_zur_macht: "He's just taking his lunch to work"

04/24/2018, 07:05 AM	#31
homer1475 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,650	From what I read, only sport fishing is allowed. No commercial fishing. Hence their stance and why they took it. Still doesn't make any sense, but its progress and looks as though the ban should be lifted with the new studies. __________________ 80G SCA Build: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2560256 Originally posted by der_wille_zur_macht: "He's just taking his lunch to work"

04/23/2018, 08:02 AM	#26
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,083	https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2018...marine-fishes/

04/23/2018, 03:47 PM	#28
Daltonbilecki Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 239	Yep... absolutely stupid. They think taking the smallest fish alive is worse than taking the biggest reproducing fish out there... I also have property in Maui and only see yellow tangs on the very southern part of the island. Luckily you can still collect fish as long as its not for commercial use. I think people there disregard spear fishing as harming the fish population because they’ve been doing it for generations, whereas the ornamental fish trade has only been around for maybe 40 years Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/24/2018, 05:25 AM	#30
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,083	I have never seen a commercial fisherman only take a few fish a day? The picture you and I posted shows just a few in just one market.

04/24/2018, 11:52 AM	#32
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,083	This from one of the collectors in Hawaii CALL TO ACTION BELOW PLEASE HELP US HELP YOU GET CHEAPER FISH AND MORE HAWAII FISH Just in stock 4 achilles, 3 mustard, 6 Unicorn Lg,1 small broomtail file one of the smallest I have ever collected (15 inches). Also In sotck 20 male cross hatch, 16 female cross hatch and 2 smaller female cross hatch, 6 Bandit Angels 2- 3.25 to 4 inch, 2- 4.5 to 7 inches rest >7, 1 male dragon eel large, golden dwarf eels, 45 Show 10 inch to 7 inch med Yellow tangs, fishers, four spot butterflies, long nose butterflies, naos tangs large streamers and many others see list attached. In stock soon more flame wrasses., 150 smaller yellows, butterflies and kole. Sphex Lion Fish Hawaiian, small Japanese squirrel, feather dusters, hermits, sponges, armored urchins and many others. 20 naso tangs streamers med to xxlg, and many others see list attached. In stock hard to get fish are the two small golden dwarf eels, show size sailfin tangs, niger triggers, goat fish xxlg colored, yellow harry hermits, purple star fish, pink nobby star fish, strawberry crabs, Christmas Island fish arrive Tuesday tomorrow, we expect then goldflakes, declivis, 150 flame angels (some in stock now), 90 bartletts. Ordered black and one emperors etc. NO ONE RECIVED CXI FISH LAST WEEK THE FLIGHT WAS FULL. See list attached. Thanks, RT Distributors CALL TO ACTION WE HOPE TO GET OUR SMALL MESH NETS PERMITS BACK SOON BUT TO DO SO WE NEED EVERYONES HELP BY SENDING A SHORT EMAIL

04/24/2018, 03:32 PM	#33
shrimpinator123 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Chapel Hill, North Carolina Posts: 166	It is suprising to me that they would rather see the Achilles tangs on ice rather then in someone's tank