Reef Central Online Community

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > New to the Hobby
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 10/19/2017, 10:06 PM   #2126
Punchanello
Registered Member
 
Punchanello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Australia
Posts: 168
Great thread!

I've read through a lot of it and am confident about setting my quarantine system up. My only question is about biological filtration.

I'm using a HOB filter with ceramic rings and some floss. It will be a permanent QT. I expect there will be a steady stream of fish going through quarantine for a period of time but there will also be periods without fish so no waste to feed the denitrifying bacteria. Is this an issue? Should I dump a prawn in there every week it runs fallow?


__________________
Don't ask me, I'm new here.

My tank build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2647315
Punchanello is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/20/2017, 08:28 AM   #2127
Dmorty217
Saltwater Addict
 
Dmorty217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vandalia OHIO
Posts: 11,158
Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchanello View Post
Great thread!

I've read through a lot of it and am confident about setting my quarantine system up. My only question is about biological filtration.

I'm using a HOB filter with ceramic rings and some floss. It will be a permanent QT. I expect there will be a steady stream of fish going through quarantine for a period of time but there will also be periods without fish so no waste to feed the denitrifying bacteria. Is this an issue? Should I dump a prawn in there every week it runs fallow?
You should break down the tank and clean everything thoroughly between tank inhabitants. As far as setting the tank back up for new arrivals and having enough biological filtration I use this product religiously and have never had a issue.https://www.tlc-products.com/startsm...w-tank-set-up/
Use frag20 for 20% off


__________________
Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs

Current Tank Info: 625g, 200g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs
Dmorty217 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/20/2017, 05:54 PM   #2128
Dmorty217
Saltwater Addict
 
Dmorty217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vandalia OHIO
Posts: 11,158
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcia12 View Post
Thanks for some really amazing suggestions here. Jbtw I'd also like to add mine suggestions here. I think you guys should go for it and get some really amazing filters and other aquariam stuff over there. https://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/...ic.php?t=41771
I referenced a saltwater product that actually works, you are pushing a freshwater forum or something similar on a saltwater forum...


__________________
Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs

Current Tank Info: 625g, 200g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

Last edited by Dmorty217; 10/20/2017 at 06:12 PM.
Dmorty217 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/23/2017, 12:18 PM   #2129
Thornbreaker
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 167
Is there any difference, pro/con, in using a powerhead vs an air stone (I'm assuming one needs a pump for the air stone too)?

I picked up a 20 gallon tank and a HOB filter for QT down the road.

Is a 50 Watt heater enough for QT, or better to just get a 100-150 Watt heater and have an extra for back up on main DT?
(Main DT is 150 gal)


Thornbreaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/23/2017, 12:37 PM   #2130
scuzy
Registered Member
 
scuzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 6,391
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thornbreaker View Post
Is there any difference, pro/con, in using a powerhead vs an air stone (I'm assuming one needs a pump for the air stone too)?

I picked up a 20 gallon tank and a HOB filter for QT down the road.

Is a 50 Watt heater enough for QT, or better to just get a 100-150 Watt heater and have an extra for back up on main DT?
(Main DT is 150 gal)


50watts not enough to heat a 20 gallon. If you put a larger heater it will heat up the tank faster and shut off earlier.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


scuzy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11/10/2017, 01:39 AM   #2131
Tastee
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 65
Hi, I am a long time freshwater aquarist but new to the saltwater hobby. I’ve been going through this thread which has absolutely fantastic information about QTs. I have a question about a choice of tank for the QT I would love some feedback on.

My DT is 40 gal (200L) with a 10g sump (40L) - Red Sea Reefer 250. Currently stocked with 2 clownfish, one anemone (not yet adopted), 6 corals and 2 hermit crabs. All healthy with no sign of parasites or disease. It has been running for a little under 3 months and I am planning for the next phase in stocking. Filtration is ~60 lb live rock in the DT, the standard Red Sea sponge, Marine Pure, Polyfilter and Torque skimmer in the sump.

I want to setup a QT for the upcoming livestock and also for use as a HT if and as needed. Due mostly to space limitations in our house I plan to keep to a single tank, and not having it running permanently - run initially whilst stocking, convert to HT if needed and then take it down, clean and rebirth as HT or QT as needed in future. I plan to keep ceramic and other media in the sump seeded and ready to go to reduce cycling in the QT/HT.

I am considering two tanks for QT/HT and would like opinions as to which you would recommend. Both are easy to source in my region (Sydney Australia).

1. Aqua One 320T 36L (9 gal)
2. Aqua One Reflex 35 35L (8 gal)

The former has a hood which appeals to me to reduce evaporation, the latter is open top, making an auto top up more important. Different filtration setups also.

I currently have an older version of the Aqua One 380 which is a similar design to the 320T as my freshwater tank and it is a very robust and reliable tank with good simple and effective filtration, which also leans me towards to the 320T.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance, Brad.


Tastee is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11/10/2017, 01:59 AM   #2132
Tastee
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 65
QT question tank links

Here are links to the tanks.

320: http://www.aquaone.com.au/product-ra.../2950-52090gwh

For some reason Aqua One donít have the 320T on their site - it is simply a taller version of the 320.

Reflex 35: http://www.aquaone.com.au/2015-04-16...s-aquarium-35l


Tastee is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11/11/2017, 06:02 AM   #2133
bnumair
Dr. Reef at ur service
 
bnumair's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA
Posts: 7,780
Blog Entries: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tastee View Post
Hi, I am a long time freshwater aquarist but new to the saltwater hobby. Iíve been going through this thread which has absolutely fantastic information about QTs. I have a question about a choice of tank for the QT I would love some feedback on.

My DT is 40 gal (200L) with a 10g sump (40L) - Red Sea Reefer 250. Currently stocked with 2 clownfish, one anemone (not yet adopted), 6 corals and 2 hermit crabs. All healthy with no sign of parasites or disease. It has been running for a little under 3 months and I am planning for the next phase in stocking. Filtration is ~60 lb live rock in the DT, the standard Red Sea sponge, Marine Pure, Polyfilter and Torque skimmer in the sump.

I want to setup a QT for the upcoming livestock and also for use as a HT if and as needed. Due mostly to space limitations in our house I plan to keep to a single tank, and not having it running permanently - run initially whilst stocking, convert to HT if needed and then take it down, clean and rebirth as HT or QT as needed in future. I plan to keep ceramic and other media in the sump seeded and ready to go to reduce cycling in the QT/HT.

I am considering two tanks for QT/HT and would like opinions as to which you would recommend. Both are easy to source in my region (Sydney Australia).

1. Aqua One 320T 36L (9 gal)
2. Aqua One Reflex 35 35L (8 gal)

The former has a hood which appeals to me to reduce evaporation, the latter is open top, making an auto top up more important. Different filtration setups also.

I currently have an older version of the Aqua One 380 which is a similar design to the 320T as my freshwater tank and it is a very robust and reliable tank with good simple and effective filtration, which also leans me towards to the 320T.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance, Brad.
bigger the better, having a hood over the tank will increase heat inside the tank and water and also reduce air exchange which could lead to low oxygen and low pH.


__________________
Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300

"Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16

Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE
bnumair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11/11/2017, 07:28 AM   #2134
Jeramirez85
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 50
Gmtagging along as I will be setting up a quarantine as well. Good post


Jeramirez85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11/18/2017, 09:59 PM   #2135
Rs Reef
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Fairfield CA
Posts: 10
Great info


Rs Reef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11/19/2017, 01:22 PM   #2136
Esh1
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 70
Great thread! it's helped me setup my own QT and figure out what supplies needed. Thanks everyone!


Esh1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/20/2017, 07:20 AM   #2137
Tom39
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Spotsylvania, Virginia
Posts: 448
TTM Quarantining Question

So I am on day 10 of quarantining a lawnmower blenny using the TTM. http://www.tanktransfermethod.com/node/1
Last night was my 3rd transfer and since then I have cleaned all of the equipment and have it set out to dry. But one question comes to mind when drying out the equipment.
The procedures indicate that you are to dry the tank and equipment between transfers for a minimum of 24 hrs and I was wondering if there was a significance to the 24hr time period? Like maybe there a specific amount of time that it takes the Trophont to dry out and die or is it simply an approximated time that is reasonable to assume that everything is dry and the Trophonts are all dead?

Thank in advance,
Tom


__________________
150g cube, 40g sump, Rapid led, Neptune controller, LR, sandbed, ATS, PS

Current Tank Info: 150g Marineland Cube
Tom39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/20/2017, 07:47 AM   #2138
Rover88
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 355
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom39 View Post
So I am on day 10 of quarantining a lawnmower blenny using the TTM. http://www.tanktransfermethod.com/node/1
Last night was my 3rd transfer and since then I have cleaned all of the equipment and have it set out to dry. But one question comes to mind when drying out the equipment.
The procedures indicate that you are to dry the tank and equipment between transfers for a minimum of 24 hrs and I was wondering if there was a significance to the 24hr time period? Like maybe there a specific amount of time that it takes the Trophont to dry out and die or is it simply an approximated time that is reasonable to assume that everything is dry and the Trophonts are all dead?

Thank in advance,
Tom
You are correct, the reason you want it dry for 24 hours is some things can't survive. Namely, I know the Tank Transfer Method is used for marine Ich. If its dry for that long, the Ich won't survive. It is an overshoot of the actual likely required time to be safe.


Rover88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/09/2018, 03:44 PM   #2139
Phistick
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 35
Sorry to ask what is the ATO that you mentioned at the beginning that I might need in my QT tank?


Phistick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/12/2018, 06:27 PM   #2140
bnumair
Dr. Reef at ur service
 
bnumair's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA
Posts: 7,780
Blog Entries: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phistick View Post
Sorry to ask what is the ATO that you mentioned at the beginning that I might need in my QT tank?
Automatic top off system. This system will replace evaporated water in tank with fresh ro-di water.
Because qt is a small system with higher load it's best to replace evaporated water right away via ato so there is minimal salinity shock.


__________________
Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300

"Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16

Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE
bnumair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/16/2018, 12:29 PM   #2141
Phistick
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 35
Thanks for that!


Phistick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/16/2018, 04:00 PM   #2142
Phistick
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 35
Is ParaGuard by Seachem a good product to use for the first two weeks in my QT?


Phistick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02/17/2018, 04:19 PM   #2143
bnumair
Dr. Reef at ur service
 
bnumair's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA
Posts: 7,780
Blog Entries: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phistick View Post
Is ParaGuard by Seachem a good product to use for the first two weeks in my QT?
Yes you can use paraguard. Make sure not to use too many meds in the tank at same time.
Safe reefing


__________________
Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300

"Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16

Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE
bnumair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03/07/2018, 12:02 AM   #2144
Tastee
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 65
Dr Reef, thanks for the reply. I went with the (partially) open top Reflex 35 option and it has worked very well, allowed me to hide the hardware, mount a fan and ATO. Here is a photo for anyone who is interested.

Thanks, Brad.



Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk


Tastee is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03/07/2018, 03:49 AM   #2145
bnumair
Dr. Reef at ur service
 
bnumair's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA
Posts: 7,780
Blog Entries: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tastee View Post
Dr Reef, thanks for the reply. I went with the (partially) open top Reflex 35 option and it has worked very well, allowed me to hide the hardware, mount a fan and ATO. Here is a photo for anyone who is interested.

Thanks, Brad.



Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
looking good, safe reefing


__________________
Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300

"Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16

Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE
bnumair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/23/2018, 09:41 PM   #2146
Seastar112786
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 3
Hello I am new to this site and saltwater tanks I made a post on a blog I believe and cannot seem to find it or see if someone wrote back also I wanted to make a blog because my fish is looking like he is maybe sick I just got him a few days ago and I think he maybe has itch or velv. I donít remember seeing these dots on him before and he is not really acting the same or maybe Iím paranoid and panicking but just want to make sure he is ok please private message me I at least know how to find that thanks 🙏


Seastar112786 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:59 AM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2018 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2014
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.